Gulliver’s Travels: The Making of a Classic…75 Years Later, World Building in Animation: The Scene Behind the Scene, A study of gender diversity in animated media, Significance of character design of non-human creatures, Disney & the Magic of Hand Drawn Animation. The boy who was scarred from an experience was given a release from it and the movie seems set to take a tragic turn for the worst. So is it really right to say it was Pinocchio’s fault that he strayed towards “evil”? Yeah but think about it this way the story was not about defeating evil it was about staying away from it or if you do indulge in it consequences will follow. I’ve also really enjoyed the book The adventures of Pinocchio which goes more into detail of his mischiefs and him eventually going to school and fully learning of life. The Darker Corners of Pinocchio Not as welcoming as it looks. Everyone else is miserable. Luring them with treats is characteristic of pedophiles, yes, but in this context it seems it was simply to turn them into donkeys so he could sell them. Basically, anything Jews come up with is designed to unseat order in the universe, from Pinocchio to compound interest and nuclear weapons. Pinocchio is the one and only exception. Pinocchio is one of my favorite Disney movies, because it has a lot of life lessons in it. Was Stromboli just being innocent? If I was teaching that class, I would’ve advised them to pay more attention to Disney’s other movies, because many of them have a fair share of dark content. But the man who lives alone with his cat and goldfish has the craziest wish ever. And let’s not forget certain portions of Fantasia. He becomes a minister of the law and keeps to his askew moral code. I have never evaluated the movie as an adult but I am not surprised that you’ve found some of the adult themes like human trafficking and pedophilia. Keeping him in the form of a wooden puppet, then, was a form of protection until he “came of age” as someone else said. I could not believe my eyes or ears; “pleasure island” “little boys that cut school” “they don’t come back as boys”. I know on the IAWL board, there are threads that pop up wondering why Potter never received punishment. Among the places where the boys could misbehave were the Roughhouse, where they were encouraged to fight, the Model Home, which was open for vandalism and destruction, and food, alcohol and tobacco was made freely available. Every character is a perfect rapresentation to show better the moral of the story. Approaching the island via a man-made tunnel that must have taken an untold amount of time and money to construct, the ship finally reaches its destination, Pleasure Island. It’s all well and good that Pinocchio and company survived, but what about the hundreds of kids getting sold into donkey slavery? The lesson is that lying cannot protect you, and Pinocchio is destined to endure more dire situations when this becomes apparent. I would argue that Beauty and the Beast is the only recent Disney film that comes close to allowing a villain to “walk” in the same way as Pinocchio – by which I’m referring to Monsieur D’Arque, probably the only truly “evil” villain in the movie (even the scenes in which Coachman and D’Arque are introduced are strikingly similar, with both men being presented as the personifications of evil). I am SHOCKED. It would have also been fascinating to read some analysis about the themes of responsibility and accountability which are some key themes of Pinocchio. Foulfellow and Gideon have their comeuppance from the beginning and earlier because they never went to school,they do petty crimes like stupid cons,little thefts and cheats, they have problems with law and authorities on a daily basis, they are stupid and illiterate guys,they live in misery and have a strage idea of theirs about “plenty of money”,and they get swindled by other and more bad and smart guys. They just looked so gruesome to be in a family/kids movie. Thank you for that. I have friends who didn’t see the Hunchback till later too. In Carl Hockley’s case, he survived the sinking of the Titanic by sneaking on board a life boat bound for New York. As you point out, many of the more recent films tie up all the loose ends or even offer perspectives that explain why “bad” behavior is a reaction to some other inequality (I’m thinking of Maleficent here). Even the Fairy Godmother let Cinderella go it alone. She is the solution to all problems presented: lifeless puppet, overgrown nose, locked cage, man-eating whale, or death. (I’m sorry for my English LOL). People see these things, yet continue to let their children watch. The way that scene played out was a clear indication of the power of the wealthy and what they do. If you think acting is a foul career, than why the heck are you reviewing movies? It’s funny how that’s where he drew the line when so many other Disney films have equally dark elements. I’ve seen it for the first (and only) time at the age of 35, with my children, and I found it very dark and disturbing, perhaps more for the adults than for the children, and surely more than the original Italian novel (!) there is way more symbolism and foreshadowing in these classics than we ever knew, making them very similar to George Orwell’s (animated) Animal Farm.. lol. (Though in all honesty, the real lie was when he said Jiminy was tied too.) All this seems even stranger when you consider that the movie’s most famous song, “When You Wish Upon A Star” is pretty much the unofficial anthem of the Disney company. In the 1940 animated adaptation Disney visualised this marvellous, shimmering carnival of hedonism as a theme park called Pleasure Island, which was the setting for some of … I’ve taken to calling POTUS President Pinocchio. By this point in Hunchback, a death has already happened. His growing nose makes it so that he cannot hide. The sense of tragedy/loss/exploitation in Dumbo and injustice/darkness in Pinocchio drag viewers into affects they might not have expected in a Disney film. Very benevolent on her part but it contradicts her promise to never help again. Until… the Blue Fairy decides to resurrect him as a real boy, flesh and blood. He was created from scratch and had no idea of what was right or wrong, so much that the blue fairy had to give him a separate conscience that was not even a part of his body (the cricket). Pinocchio tries to blame Honest John saying he kidnapped him, when really Honest John wasn’t a very bright guy himself thus couldn’t take advantage of Pinoke IF he would’ve just said “no, I’m going to school and that’s final now leave me alone.” Blue Fairy was simply saying do not lie, do not blame others for your actions and when you misbehave. There is no mercy for them, no one to help turn them onto the straight and narrow path. he got put into the world blindly and bluntly and got one too many curve balls thrown at him, such as life. The Coachman lays out his plan to traffic stupid little boys. Pinocchio is a story of a carpenter named Geppetto (Pronounced: "Ja PEDO") who talks to his cat, fish, toys, and a doll in the shape of a young boy, who he calls Pinocchio, who he wishs to be a real boy (I wonder why). Therefore, this theory has it that Donkey was once a boy who was sent off to this very island and turned into a donkey. While all other Disney movies flaunt the lie that is happily ever after, Pinocchio gives it to the audience straight. But it is worthy to mention what Stromboli said after he locked Pinocchio in the cage/sack. I think that’s a very important role that is required for this movie, the world is a tough place to live sometimes but all we can do is roll with the punches and make the best of it. There is oone point to this story that is entirely missed altogether. This, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Tarzan, and Atlantis are among Disney’s darkest films. In Mr Potter’s case he was a frail old man in decline health-wise and in his power over his town. I love these films in spite of their flaws; they have a lot and I mean a lot of “heart”. I played a spooky clown at Pleasure Island) and having read the original Collodi tale. Pleasure Island is shown once more in the 2000 TV musical Geppetto. Perhaps Jiminy was wrong. Otherwise, the truth the viewer must face is too terrible. Rule 2 does not apply when replying to this stickied comment.. Rule 2 does apply throughout the rest of this thread.. What this means: Please keep any "meta" discussion directed at specific users, mods, or r/conspiracy in general in this comment chain only.. Is the World Ready for an LGBTQ Disney Princess (or Prince)? The very idea that the movie may be the one telling the lie is astounding. Interesting article, gives me something to think about! Netflix’s The White Tiger Trailer: Create Your Own Fate, The Complex Lessons of Environmentally-Motivated Animation, Samurai Jack: Exploring the Newfound Maturity. ... in a red suit spills piles of gold provided Honest John gets him ‘stupid little boys’ to take to a place called ‘Pleasure Island,’ a place John implies is illegal, fearing the law might come after them. As for Dumbo, I don’t really remember it much but now you mention it, I forgot about Dumbo. Sure he doesn’t have to face a dragon but hey, at least Phillip was well equipped. Enter: The Blue Fairy for the second time. Lampwick would have been the successor of Honest John. I need to go tell his father! It is not necessarily the act of sexual behaviors with children. children and even teens are so naïve and oblivious to life in general, not to mention Disney movies. But take it from someone who loved Pinocchio as a child (and still do as an adult) you don’t catch these things. This ties in with the point that Pinocchio is the sole light in a world of evil. I had to get online and check if anyone else felt it was inappropriate and hinted at child sex trafficking. Father more than master, really. )… Maybe (it’s a point of view that needs to be confirmed) showing moral decay and hellish punishments was seen as a way to divert people from misbehavioring, typical of the Puritan Anglo-saxon mentality and of course very strange (I add, twisted and perverse) for the French (and Latin/Catholic) one. A plump man in a red suit spills piles of gold provided Honest John gets him ‘stupid little boys’ to take to a place called ‘Pleasure Island,’ a place John implies is illegal, fearing the law might come after them. I might also mention watching Dumbo as an adult. So Disney got better at it (you still have to watch em) and you the viewer are better for it. Last but not least, is it impossible that Paris successfully revolts against a crazed judge who decided to bring the fight to their most precious cathedral in the square? It makes me want to look at all those people who say, “Oh, Pinocchio is the sweetest little Disney classic” and say, “You’re new here, right?” Compared to the stuff you outlined here, Hunchback of Notre Dame is downright tame. I haven’t watched Pinocchio since I was little but I’ll definitely have to revisit it now. I know it’s awful, but what can you do? The Trope Namer, of course, is the amusement park in Pinocchio that causes boys to turn into donkeys ... the only "playing" that ensues is when a conspiracy of complete strangers spend the whole movie mercilessly playing with his head. One student simply stated, “This isn’t what Disney is all about,” which instigated a great conversation about audience expectations, brand, original material, etc. Pleasure Island was a cursed amusement park seen in Pinocchio.The park was owned and operated by The Coachman, who made a fortune from his crooked deeds, and is seen in the film when the Coachman brings Pinocchio, Lampwick and a coachload of other boys to the park. The other boys… not so much. And what he did is pretty terrible and tragic. Can you draw any similar parallels. I was always sensitive, and the thought of those boys, suddenly repentent and weeping “I want my momma!” just cut me to the heart. Eh… if it is, it’s not part of the Disney movie. They just get away with their actions. And she sets many things in motion, thankfully she is benevolent. My husband and I watched this movie last night for the first time and we’re both horrifed. great post Becky! Shadows and light, shadows and light, just like life; you appreciate the light more when there are shadows ( I didn’t say darkness). You honestly don’t call that distinguished or successful? She proceeded to warn Pinocchio that the rest of the journey must be taken alone. The threat to be made into firewood was certainly there. You can hear it briefly in Tobacco Row sequence,in Pleasure Island. I doubt your students really watched a lot of them. When he starts jabbering about a boy made of wood and is now his son he’ll likely get thrown into an asylum and pinocchio will end up in a workhouse. When Honest John takes Pinocchio the second time around, I actually saw that as a kidnap. What is the first thing that comes to mind about Pinocchio? I still wander how so much dark, violent and gruesome scenes could have been introduced in a Disney film for children and families, and more how could have been allowed in the Hays Code time, when were banned (or very controlled) for example violence against children and animals, sympathy for illicit behaviors, property damage, alcohol drinking (few years after the Prohibition time), drugs, fires, images of death, animal nudity (! So realistic, isn’t it? He doesn’t really even understand right and wrong, that’s why Jiminy has to be assigned to him. But yes, in a way he did come of age. Following a nuclear strike on Italy, a Blue Fairy comes down and brings Pinocchio to life. But either way it definitely is dark and scary as hell in a motivating way. Images and media related to Pleasure Island. He is not just some big wealthy guy who puts kids to work in salt mines after turning them to donkeys which apparently symbolizes their stupidity. I appreciate most of your thoughts and praise of the art of the film. Pinocchio was originally written by Carlo Lorenzini (known by his pen name, Carlo Collodi) between 1881 and 1883 in Italy. Honest John Foulfellow whose very name screams of irony. Yet again, his nose grows but depending on how it is perceived, the lie is told by the movie or the character. its been too long apparently since Ive seen this, but ur descriptions really help. I WATCHED THIS MOVIE LAST NIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE IN ALMOST 20 YEARS.. I’m 26 now.. and the movie freaked me out last night more than it did when I was a kid. Pinocchio is known, far and wide as the puppet who strived to become a boy, who learned to live up to the qualities required of a real boy: to be ‘brave, truthful and unselfish.’ His quest is the primary plot with deviations and digressions, telling the story so realistically it puts modern kids to shame. Was John’s sidekick just there? The fairy, who told Pinocchio not to lie, lied. Ah,and pedophilia has a whole(or all)different meaning! Pinocchio is an instant success in the theater to such an extent, Jiminy Cricket starts to doubt himself. Lastly, it’s important to note that neither Disney nor the protagonists kill the “villain” in films such as Snow White. And for those who do manage, it takes lies to get there. Pinocchio isn’t the only film that has the villain not getting his comeuppance. Honest John is not so terrified of Stromboli because this last one has shown his true nature to no one but Pinocchio,Monstro as a whale behaving in contrast with his nature is,according to Disney,the evil in the body of an animali, that’s why is a whale and not a shark or dogfish like in the Collodi’s book. These days, if Disney even tried that, they’ll have the kids they so explicitly and implicitly insulted camping out in protest. I’ve heard of a broken heart but that was ridiculous. After enough time in the park, the boys would gradually transform into donkeys; still with their human minds, but donkeys in every other way. Of course, it’s not the only film but it is the only Disney film to do so. I forgot to mention that many celebrities, have made big bucks from acting, and many of them are extremely rich. She decides that Gepetto deserves to have his wish granted, and gives Pinocchio the gift of life. 39 thoughts on “ Disturbing Disney #2: The truth of Pleasure Island in Pinocchio (1940) ” movierob March 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm. When he says that he was put in a sack, rather than a cage, he once again loses responsibility because his sight is impaired. This scene, with its grey background and colored characters also marks the transition from bright colors earlier and simple problems to serious problems and dark demeanors. his voter base, his Administration, the Republican Congress and the, soon to swing radically to the right, SCOTUS. Some of them were darker than others with Hunchback of Notre Dame usually taking the cake, some even putting Black Cauldron and Sleeping Beauty up on that special pedestal. It means a lot. This article is fascinating to me… I think with how long its been since I last watched Pinocchio I’ve managed to iron out the details into much brighter things in my head. I watched this movie for the first time since my childhood and man, so many implicit dark meanings you only understand as an adult. There’s a darker ending to the after film sequence. Then I realized that they all must have had family too. I found it utterly disturbing, but still love it. I agree that this movie is Disney’s darkest. Gepetto just sends Pinocchio, a new life, into the world without any advice or guidelines of what to avoid altogether. The next scene starts with Mr. I think the Coachman’s comeuppance is that he eventually runs out of stupid little boys for his racket. Wickedpedia is a FANDOM Movies Community. Killed. In Italy, where the original story was written, the Donkey is a symbol of stupidity. However, this is as far as she goes before laying the burden on Pinocchio to prove himself before being made of flesh and blood. In the end, the only happy people are Pinocchio and Gepetto. 90 Day Fiance's Yazan Has A New Girlfriend, But Will He Return To The Franchise? In Pinocchio, boys go to Pleasure Island and can do whatever they like. Pinocchio, once he regained his conscience, escaped the prison of profane life and escaped Pleasure Island. Guests enter to find Pinocchio, holding the bloody and broken Blue Fairy in a closet, where she begs for mercy. He offers gold to his pawns who now seem completely terrified of him as he whispers his plan to traffic the kids off to a nice little place called Pleasure Island. Once a boy is abused by a pedophile, they are no longer boys in the sense that their innocence has been violated. Also, I believe Pinocchio’s task is not just impossible because he is asked to do what other people can do – he is asked to do it without actually having a real conscience. But the strengths… beautifully animated, with great opportunities for wonderful artwork: Gepetto’s workshop, the village, Pleasure Island, and the underwater scenes are quite beautiful. Things get absolutely crazy, even for a Disney movie here. I cried whenever the Coachman came on the scene and was abusing the boys now turned into donkeys, Another movie I never liked was Bambi and I guess it was because Bambi’s mother dying offscreen never had an effect on me. In one scene, just before the Coachman talks with a small donkey named Alexander, he stripped clothes off of another donkey? Pinocchio is the second animated Disney movie, made by Walt Disney Productions and first released to movie theaters by RKO Radio Pictures on February 7, 1940. In the original Italian story of Pinocchio, Pleasure Island was called Toyland ("Il Paese del Balocchi"), but in an early English translation it was mistakenly translated as "Boobieland". But the Coachman insists there is no risk because…. Good point. The sun's rays cast away the shadows and horrors of the Coachman's evil operation on the island and brought with it a new hope of peace and tranquility for the boys turned donkeys that now would make the island their home. 1 Screenshots 2 Pinocchio's Daring Journey 3 Concept Art 4 Miscellaneous 5 Video Games Add a photo to this gallery Add a photo to this gallery Add a photo to this gallery Add a photo to this gallery Add a photo to this gallery It hadn't been a pleasant time for him after all was said and done, but it was a lesson learned and a valuable one at that. This scene alone is screaming of dark, implicit messages a child might never understand. And you notice that Pinocchio also has it more difficult than other Disney protagonists in a certain way. Pinocchio may get second chances, but not these boys. There’s also a 1970 animated version which is really good. The cat cries over his corpse, the fish, the cricket, Gepetto, the audience, everyone. So after reading this I think that, what’s actually even darker is that they can kidnap him again, just as easily after the movie ends and he resumes his life as a little defenseless kid. I think they will find a way home to there parents house. We already established that the Coachman is responsible for illegal child trafficking, transporting them to a Fun land called Pleasure Island, (a word that many adults associate directly with sex) and luring them there with fun, candy, anything a kid could want. Insightful, super analysis taking into account phenomena in the world. Stromboli’s next show presumably flops without his star attraction. It's possible he was once a boy who ended up on Pleasure Island. But there is something notorious about the evil Coachman. Is it impossible that a street rat can trick a mad sorcerer into becoming a genie by taking advantage of his pride? Some of the donkeys did not immediately lose their human voices, and were placed in a pen by the Coachman - what happened to them next was unclear, although presumably they were either kept there until they finally lost their ability to talk, killed by the Coachman, or were used to pull his stagecoach. Interestingly enough, it was my brother who pointed the pedophilia thing out but it took much more expansion than the Pleasure Island thing. The story of the Metamorphoses bears many resemblances with Pinocchio by its story line, its spiritual allegory and its theme of occult initiation. I came away from it feeling sick. NOW I get it. Yes, Frollo was sex-obsessed, but at least he was explicit about it. Thank you so much. Was it really a lie? I haven’t seen Maleficent yet but the idea does somewhat bother me. Films like Pinocchio and Snow White feature in my opinion a new testament concept of faith in which the protagonist is not burdened with the obligation to imprison kill or punish the antagonist, but solely to try and be good. And behind these already dark explicit overtones the movie makes, it cleverly hides something darker, even for adults. However, Lampwick and all the other boys were not so lucky, and transformed into donkeys in one of the most notably terrifying sequences in Disney history. Thank you, really! The rest… they are put to work like slaves and those who have even the capability to protest the conditions they are put in are silenced. I especially enjoyed reading your discussion on how the Coachman lures boys, thus representing child trafficking. As a little kid I used to watch Pinocchio often, and I remember I didn’t find it (nor I did with Dumbo )so dark as Snowhite or The Sleeping Beauty, I only remember this strange feeling… like if I was watching something forbidden, too much harsh, bigger than me. There are stories about a deleted scene in which Honest John and Gideon meet Pinocchio for a third time but are arrested. It is a dark tragedy with zero phony moralizing. Pleasure Island violates their innocence badly. The best way to hide something dark is to coat it with something dark. All other Disney villains were punished accordingly, facing justice in one way or another. And in this film, the main characters prosper by way of goodness and faith. It takes pain, blood, sweat, tears and abuse before you get there and once you do, you are scarred. Pinocchio is a 2019 Italian fantasy film, co-written and directed by Matteo Garrone, and based on the 1883 book The Adventures of Pinocchio by Italian author Carlo Collodi. Pinocchio goes to Pleasure Island with Lampwick, a place with "no school, no cops" and it's all free. This is what leads us to the first lie of the movie and ironically it is not told by Pinocchio. Whereas the Beast, Gaston, the villagers, the Enchantress, and the rabid wolves all have some logical motivations for their actions, the Asylum owner is a corrupt, sadistic official who clearly derives pleasure in torturing people that society has ostracized as “crazy” or different. I should’ve added that. And there are plenty of people in the world, such as the Coachman, who will take advantage of that.”. By the way, I love the social commentary connected to the boys/donkeys at the end. As the movie portrays it as a lie, here again is the second lie told by either the movie or Pinocchio himself, depending on how it is spun. Not one of the villains in this film gets what they have coming. The rest of the lies are told by Pinocchio. At the world premiere of the YTP, Gene Kelly and Donald O'Connor are in the audience. Including that Jiminy was caught too is his way of saying that his conscience was out of his reach–a way to completely avoid the blame that he anticipates from the Fairy. I could compare it with a (softer) scene of Dumbo, when the baby elephant becomes sick and delirious after drinking a bucket of champagne. The fox is afraid of being caught but the coachman insists there is no risk. January 2th 2020 - Pinocchio and the Great Conspiracy - - Part 2 - T. his is the second part of a series of two Thursday letters which is based on an interview with the Norwegian editor-in-chief of the independent Norwegian internet media Steigan.no Pål Steigan. Prove you are human, type cats in singular form below: The Artifice is a long-form writing platform that covers a wide spectrum of art forms. However I think there is something a lot darker about the older disneys snow white for example, you wouldn’t catch someone trying to stab someones heart nowadays in Disney! There goes Jiminy’s storyline. He is lured away by Mr. And these lines are lies. I really enjoyed reading your article. Or are they? He convinces him he is ill and tells him to take some time off at Pleasure Island. Never trust them or expose yourself to their works if you value your soul and your joy for living. How can Pinocchio be faulted for any of his choices when the Blue Fairy did not provide him with the tools he needed to make those choices. In Pinocchio, it only gets harder. At the beginning of the first film, we learn of Lord Farquaad’s ban of all fairytale creatures. What was it Jiminy said about a conscience? Now, watching it again, and reading your article, I know the reason and the essence of those feelings . An argument can be made that there is no villain in that movie though. With that understanding its hard not to come away thinking “you can’t change the whole world” – not unlike Pinocchio. I am very interested. Honestly, Tarzan was not really about defeating villains either and lo, Clayton still got the axe. Pleasure Island is an amusement park where kids can do whatever they want. The older Rose explains to the explorers that Cal Hockley eventually committed suicide in 1929 after the Wall Street Crash ruined whatever finances he had. 15 PLEASURE ISLAND … Ghislaine Maxwell was far worse than Jeffrey Epstein when it came to abusing young women and girls, according to their most outspoken accuser — in fact, she was “Gepetto” to his “Pinocchio.” Pinocchio and the Great Conspiracy Part 2 Thursday letter. IN a last ditch effort to appear the victim in the trail of events that he enjoyed up till the end while not going to school as he was told, Pinocchio lies about being chopped into fire wood–even though it is clear that he is whole. Also, the evil influence of the island seems to wear off if the visitor is lucky enough to escape in time. There was a storybook of bambi I read with my grandmother as a child I still have which hinted the possibility she wasn’t dead it said something like the hunter had caught her and now Bambi was all alone. Anyway, I wish I’d had this analysis to give them a framework to understand what’s going on here! I saw it once and never wanted to see it again. My dad absolutely despises Pinocchio, in large part because it was such a dark film. The Internet is a Golden Corral for these theories and we eat them up like it’s a weekday special. “Smoke your heads off. No dark messages or meanings. Unfortunately, his nose starts growing as he continues to emphasize that he met two monsters. Pinocchio was trapped, tripped, sent to the theater, used, abused, and locked up. Not the most believable, but maybe the most interesting. 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